The Young Rama asks the sage about impure vision – how can this come about when the Atma is purity itself? Recognition of objects as real or unreal depends on the determination and discrimination – and the attitude – of the seer. The famous saying, “the seen reflects the seer” tells that story … just as there is the fact that the mind takes the form of whatever it is pointed at. We need to recognise the world is out there, yes, it is unreal, and yes, we can be established in our true self within.